Castration Fantasies: Charlotte Sartre Wants to Wear Your Balls as Earrings

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Okay, cool, so we’re recording now. So hi, my name is Blunt, and I am a pro dom in New York City. And I am here with Charlotte. And I’m super excited to talk with you, because I’ve known you for so long, we have such a history.

Charlotte Sartre: [crosstalk 00:00:17]. Hi. Sorry, I don’t mean to talk over you. Hi, I’m Charlotte. I’m just a silly lady. And yeah, I’ve known you since literally my very first day in porn, which I think is really awesome. And not a lot of people can say that they’ve been friends with somebody in the industry for that long.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I know. Truly. I was thinking about it last night when I was thinking about chatting with you. And I was like, “I think it was her first porn shoot.” And I was working as the videographer for a kinky … What I call a kinky Rube Goldberg type, experiment porn website. And I was doing videography for a while, while I was pro domming. And I … Because you were camming before that, right?

Charlotte Sartre: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah. I think I remember being told a performer who’s coming next week has never shot a mainstream porn, but can fist their asshole.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah. The funny thing about that is, I had been thinking about going into porn for a long time. And when I was 18, I was like, “Well, I’ll try the college thing for a couple years.” Didn’t quite pan out. And then I was doing web camming on MFC, Chaturbate, KinkLive back when KinkLive was the only site that would let you fist your ass, and now I think they’ve been sold to Flirt4Free or something. So they’re not quite as chill.

Charlotte Sartre: But my personal goal before I really wanted to jump into porn, I was like, “Okay, I have to be able to fist my own ass, or else I’m not worthy.” And then I come to find out there’s girls who don’t do anal, which-

Mistress Danielle Blunt: [crosstalk 00:02:08] my trick of success is, this fist must go into my own asshole.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah. And I had no idea, but I’m like, “I’m already here, I might as well commit to the bit.” So here we are.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: You’re an overachiever, Charlotte.

Charlotte Sartre: Thank you.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Truly impressive. Yeah, and your career took off from there, from what it looked like from the outside. And we’ve stayed in touch. And I want to talk about … So you shot … I think you shot multiple times at the site that I was doing the videography for. And then I feel like you were doing mostly submissive content at that point.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah. I remember I had a really shitty agent who landed me my first shoot at that website. And I remember asking the producer, “Hey, I just dumped my agent because they suck. Can you … Do you know anybody else who would want to hire me?”

Charlotte Sartre: So from there, I got an interview at kink.com, because I was living in the Bay Area at that time. And also, I didn’t really know that I was a switch when I first got into porn, because I wasn’t super sexually experienced. I had one boyfriend, and an array of girlfriends. But I was just subby with everybody.

Charlotte Sartre: So I didn’t really know until I fell into doing dm stuff by happenstance. And you’re actually the first person I ever did ball busting with. And now I have this humongous ball busting fetish, which I think is awesome.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I love that. I remember that scene very vividly. You stayed with me for a couple nights, and came along to the sessions that I had lined up for that week. And that session is definitely the one that stood out. Just watching the glee in your face as you’re like, “I can do this?”

Charlotte Sartre: It made me so horned up personally. But also, it just unlocked this different part of my brain. I was like, “Oh my gosh, I didn’t know that this could be enjoyable for me sexually, and also so spiritually fulfilling.” And also, it was a whole mess of fun. And I’m just always so grateful that you let me into your sessions, because it’s such a private and vulnerable thing, and I really got to see your dynamic with your subs.

Charlotte Sartre: And since then, I’ve seen people do all different styles of domination. But I’ve always really admired your nurturing style, but also horribly cruel at the same time. But you tow that line so well. And I feel like, for the subs, they experience this extreme of pain or whatever it is, I mean, depending on the sub and what they’re into, and then they get this big release on the other side of that. Maybe not orgasmically, but spiritually. They always leave looking like they just got a massage or something.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah. They float out of my dungeon. And I think it’s-

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Thank you for saying that though. Those are all very nice things to hear and receive. But I think that there’s something there about … First of all, I want to hear your Ted Talk of ball busting and spirituality. I would pay good money to see that.

Charlotte Sartre: Oh, thank you. I feel like the two are very much intertwined.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah. Life fulfillment through ball busting and surrender. And I think that that altered state, whether or not that there’s an orgasm involved. I think what I never understood about sex that doesn’t involve BDSM is that it only is interested in pleasure. And I’m like, “Oh, that’s only a fraction of what life is. And it feels like there’s so much more.”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: And I think through playing with intensities, whether it be intensities of pleasure, vulnerability, intimacy, or pain, that there’s this chance to get into this altered state where you’re putty in someone’s hand, and floating, and you can reassemble some pieces, and just really that … I guess I’ve never thought of it entirely as spiritual, but this altered state of mush. It’s so beautiful.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah, I completely agree with that. And I don’t know, I think that’s one reason I felt so unfulfilled in my sexual relationships, especially before I got into porn, which really helped me experience the full spectrum of my sexuality. And now, especially with my relationship with my husband, he’s very much submissive, but we also switch off from time to time.

Charlotte Sartre: And it’s just so cool. When we have sex, I don’t necessarily always want to come. I’m like, “No, I just want to hurt your balls, and jerk you off.” Or, “I just want to peg you for half an hour.”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Sex can be so much more.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah. Or sometimes he’ll just want to go down on me, and then not want anything else. It’s not always … Both people orgasming isn’t always the end all be all. Sometimes it’s just sharing that dynamic and power exchange. I think that’s really cool.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah, and I feel like the potential for what sex can be gets expanded so much when you’re not basing an end point on an orgasm. And if you ask any of my personal submissives, and orgasm certainly isn’t part of most of their sex lives. Hopefully they won’t unionize.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: But yeah, I’m really interested in orgasm denial as an end point, and seeing that frustration build. And I feel like both ball busting and orgasm denial, or even just sex without the purpose or orgasm, or I guess, procreation too, is a very interesting way to expand what sex can be.

Charlotte Sartre: I completely agree with that. Absolutely.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah. Yeah, and it’s been so fun watching your fem dom ball busting site take off. I was like, “Yes, she’s doing such a good job.”

Charlotte Sartre: Thank you. Yeah, I’m hoping to get a membership site going with that. I’m currently working on a sex membership site, because I’m like, “Okay, that’s definitely going to make money, I’ll focus on that first.” But yeah, my husband, he was working on Clips4Sale for years, and years, and then he finally … He still does both, but he put all his Clips4Sale stuff onto a membership site. And I just get to see him running this fem dom website, and I’m like, “Oh, that looks so fun, I just want to …”

Charlotte Sartre: One of my favorite things is just hiring somebody, and then kicking them in the balls, or pegging them, or whatever. And I get to edit it afterwards. And I know, it just is really fulfilling for me.

Charlotte Sartre: And since the pandemic, I haven’t really been able to film as much fem dom stuff. And then with my husband, we’ll be in the middle of something, and I’m kicking him in the balls, and I’m like, “Oh, I really don’t feel like getting the camera out right now.” I’m like, “I’m too horny.”

Charlotte Sartre: So it certainly doesn’t make a ton of money, but it makes me happy, which I think is important. Not everything has to be about capitalism.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Honestly, I want to read your essay on ball busting. Yeah, what does it feel like for you to kick someone in the balls?

Charlotte Sartre: So I think … And a lot of guys I’ve talked to about this, the kicking isn’t necessarily everyone’s favorite aspect of ball busting. I think for video, it certainly looks the hottest, because you have a strong beautiful leg, and ass jiggling. I love being able to see the guy’s reaction as he gets hit.

Charlotte Sartre: But often times, it’s hard to land a kick that you can’t really see that well. So sometimes it ends up on the taint, or you get a bruised inner thigh or something. But I think the idea is super hot.

Charlotte Sartre: But what I found a lot of people I do ball busting with seem to really like is squeezing, and punching. I think because the hand to ball connection is just the most intimate. And I certainly feel that way too. I get really horny when I’m kicking a guy in the balls. But there’s something just about grabbing and squeezing, and pulsating, and just looking at him in the eye, and the eyebrows go like, “Oh.”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: And they want to take more for you, even thought they’re [crosstalk 00:11:56] very close to what they can take. That’s such a hot … When you’re describing the muscly leg kicking up, I feel like there’s something about that tension that’s very objectifying and distant, which is hot in its own way. Whereas, using your hand is so intimate and personal. I always, whenever anyone asks me what my favorite implement is, I’m like, “Either my hand or my brain. I don’t need anything else.”

Charlotte Sartre: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And that’s one reason I really, really admire your style of domination, because yeah, I’ve done shoots where they’re like, “Oh, do you know how to use a whip?” And I’m like, “Honestly, no, I’ve never held one.” But I really like punching people, and kicking them. And I feel like it’s the warmth of the hand. And I love hitting somebody on whatever part of their body, and I feel it sting back because it’s not without me taking a little bit of pain too.

Charlotte Sartre: And I feel like having done submissive stuff for so long, it’s made me really appreciate the submissives on the other side of me dominating so much more. I’m always more trusting, if I’m submitting to somebody in a scene, if they’ve experienced all the things that they’re doing to me. And I don’t know what ball busting feels like, but I’ve had a lot of horrible things done to my gentiles. So I feel like its kind of similar.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: And I think switches always make the best doms. I’ll die on that hill. And there’s something about they way I … I come to pro domming from a personal interest in BDSM, and trained as a bottom, switch, classical old guard type space, which I don’t think is the only way, but I think that it is very interesting and helpful to understand, psychologically, what someone might be going through, or to get a better understanding of that. Yeah, and I think painful handjobs are underrated. Teeth in blowjobs are underrated.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah, absolutely. It’s so funny, my husband really loves handjobs, more than blowjobs actually. But I’m like, “Why is that [inaudible 00:14:27] blowjobs.” And he’s like, “Well, I can only see the top of your head when you’re blowing me. And it’s just so much more intimate with your hands, you can do so much more.” It’s really hard for me to ball bust somebody while I’m sucking their dick, because I can’t get that far. But if I’m … Yeah, if I have some separation, I can really do that.

Charlotte Sartre: Another thing I really love playing with is the idea, and especially the threat of castration. When I first heard the term castration anxiety, I was like, “Oh my God, that’s going to be super hot.” But then it was just some boring psychological term. But I like to give people the real anxiety of castration. I just think that’s a lot more sexy.

Charlotte Sartre: And my favorite is, with my husband, if we’re having sex or whatever, I will like, “Okay, right after you come, I’m going to cut your balls off.” And he’ll just come instantly.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I love finding that one thing that works for someone, is so powerful too. And it can be so different. And I think that’s where I find the most enjoyment, is seeing you right there being like, “Oh, I know what I can say to have this control over you.”

Charlotte Sartre: He makes me so happy. And I love the idea of just having someone’s balls on display. I often think of, “Oh my gosh, there’s only two balls.” Unless I castrate more men. What would I do with them?

Mistress Danielle Blunt: [crosstalk 00:16:04].

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah, I’m like, “Will I wet preservation specimen.” Have balls in a jar, in some formaldehyde, on my mantle piece, or shelf somewhere. But then I’m like, “Oh, but they would be really cute as earrings.” But then, well, with the earrings, you need a matching necklace. So who else’s balls am I going to get?

Charlotte Sartre: And I love the idea of subtly signaling to other people in the lifestyle that you’re into this stuff. Like wearing a chastity key around your neck, I think, is super hot. But then wouldn’t it be amazing to just wear balls as earrings.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah.

Charlotte Sartre: And then you meet somebody, post pandemic, at a gathering or something, “Oh, those are beautiful earrings.” “Oh, thank you so much. They’re actually my husband’s balls. Well, they were.”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Now they’re mine.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Oh my God, I wish you ample balls and castration in your future.

Charlotte Sartre: Thank you. I feel like I’d be good at it.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I filmed a really fun clip in the beginning of the pandemic with Mistress Odette, who is a hardcore medical fetishist, really beautiful aesthetic. Yeah. And we did a domestic wife wanting to talk about the options of chastity verse castration. And we did a telehealth visit, and it was so fun. We both got so excited.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I was like, “Please tell me about my options about controlling my husband’s orgasm.” And she’s like, “Well, some people like chastity. But for me, I prefer castration.” And she has all of these amazing tools. It was so fun.

Charlotte Sartre: Oh my gosh, I need to find a link and buy that.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I’ll send it to you.

Charlotte Sartre: That’s magnificent.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I’ve also seen on Twitter, really intense body modification scenes where doms have actually taken the testicles out … Have you seen those? I’m sure you have. Out of the sack, and then sutured it back up.

Charlotte Sartre: Oh, I think that’s so hot. And I love where … I can’t remember who does a lot of this, but I think multiple people I follow, and it’s super hot every time. But stapling the sack together.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yes.

Charlotte Sartre: And I love stapling, because it looks so severe, and it certainly hurts when you’re getting stapled. But it’s not the most horrible thing, and it’s just-

Mistress Danielle Blunt: It’s different than impact.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah. And I got my pussy stapled shut one time, and it was a ball and a biscuit, let me tell you. It was fun. So now I feel like I really understand what it would be like for a dude to get his scrotum stapled shut. It just looks so nice, having that neat little seam that’s meticulously stapled, and it’s just like Barbie doll down there.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I have a part of my website of canvases of people I’ve decorated with staples, and needles, and-

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah, you were the first person I did needle play with.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Oh my God, yeah. I forgot about that.

Charlotte Sartre: I was going through … Before Instagram updated it’s TOS, I was going through and trying to clean out my profile, and then I found that picture where you did, I think it was the heart or something, on my chest, and I was like, “Oh.”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: That’s so cute.

Charlotte Sartre: I’m like, “Well, this is getting archived.”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah. So I’ve sewed up someone’s pussy before for a prom night scene, which was really fun.

Charlotte Sartre: That’s sweet.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I was both the overprotective dad and the date.

Charlotte Sartre: Look at you just wearing multiple hats.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I know, just doing it all really. And stapling … Recreating someone’s genitals is super interesting. I’ve done those with super glue too, medical super glue, and to turn someone into a Ken doll. And then watching them get an erection is just truly beautiful and amusing. It was so good.

Charlotte Sartre: I think that’s amazing. I also love toying with the idea of sisification in that sense. Well, if you aren’t very good as a man, let’s turn you into a woman. So I’m building your pussy right now.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah.

Charlotte Sartre: I don’t know, I just think that’s super hot.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah, very fem dom Frankenstein.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah, I’m also interested … You were talking about your relationship with your husband, and being a switch. And how do you navigate that, or negotiate that? Particularly I’d imagine it’s more intense during a pandemic when you’re spending so much time together too.

Charlotte Sartre: Oh, yeah, well it’s been really nice to spend so much time with each other during the pandemic. And I feel like we’ve both been exploring ourselves together but also separately. If I’m at a doctor’s appointment or whatever, or running errands, I come home and it’s not my business what he’s doing when I’m not there. But then I’ll go in the bathroom and there’s dildos this long, and chastity cages, and a Hitachi. And I’m like, “Oh, he’s been busy.”

Charlotte Sartre: And we’ve explored and discovered so much about ourselves. He didn’t know he could come from a Hitachi before. And he didn’t really start exploring chastity until now. He thought it was just something that was cool for videos, but something he wasn’t personally interested in. But I’ll be on the phone or something, and he’ll walk by and just drop his pants, and he’s got a cage on. I’m like, “Uh, so hot.”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: [inaudible 00:22:27].

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah. And then I’ll be like, “Oh, can I put the Hitachi on your clit?” Because I’ll sometimes want to sissify him. And it’s so funny, because he’s the most masculine looking dude. But when we’re fucking, sometimes I just want to be lesbian with him.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah, he looks so good in lingerie too.

Charlotte Sartre: I know. And he wears fishnets better than me. It’s ridiculous. Recently, we were … He was in chastity, and I had the Hitachi on it, and I was showing him how he would come with it.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah.

Charlotte Sartre: And then I was fucking him at the same time, with the longest dildo I had strapped on. And so he was just prostate coming, prostate coming. And then he’s like, “I think I’m going to come, but I’m not sure.” So I pulled out. And then there was no stimulation again at all, but he squirted across the room, and just coated the wall with squirt.

Charlotte Sartre: And so I don’t know, there’s a lot of hot debates about the composition of female squirt, is it piss? Is it not piss? And then I don’t even know what to think if it comes from a dude. But whatever it is, I was super into it. It also made me laugh my ass off [crosstalk 00:23:53]. You fucking pissed on the wall. I was almost crying laughing. I was like, “Look what you did.” But it was so hot at the same time.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: It’s so hot to make someone lose control of all bodily function.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah. And in instances like that, I’ll be playing with him for upwards of an hour sometimes. And I don’t even necessarily want to come. I’m like, “I’m having too much fun.” If I come, the part is over usually. I’m just like, “Oh, I’m done.” So I just wanted to keep going. And that’s what I love about prostate coming too, you can just … The party doesn’t stop there.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely a skill to be able to keep going after coming. Ooh. The person that I’m quarantining with is a very beautiful masochist. And I’ve been using her as my punching bag, which is really fun. And she is really into fem dom and humiliation. And so there’s a lot of verbal components to our relationship.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: And I was thinking about you saying that, “Once you come, I’m going to cut your balls off.” To your husband. And I love being able to have the time to finesse dirty talk down to the point where it’s almost like … I think of it as installing fetishes, or getting to the crux of it, of what it is that someone wants to hear, that makes them completely unable to remain in control.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: And I’ve had experiences as a pro dom where people are like, “Oh, do whatever you want to me.” Which my response to that is always, “Great, castration. No problem.” And they’re like, “Oh, wait, I do have limits.” And it’s like, “Oh, boring.”

Charlotte Sartre: Everybody does.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: But I have this experience with some men who just aren’t super comfortable with their submissiveness, or they carry shame around their desires, particularly when it has to do with cross dressing or gender play. And I’m just thinking of this one scene where he said that he was very verbal, he liked a very verbal top. And I was like, “You know exactly what you want me to say, but you’re not going to tell me.” And he was like, “Mm-hmm (affirmative).”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: And it was like, “You want me to spend my time trying to figure out what the keywords that are encoded into your sexuality are that you want to hear.” And it turned into an interrogation scene, I’m like, “Tell me. Give me the ammo. If you want me to dom you, I’m going to have that in my arsenal, and I’m going to use it against you.” And I finally got it out. But it’s so interesting how specific phrases are so loaded for some people, or just have this instant response.

Charlotte Sartre: Oh, absolutely. And yeah, I have little things like that too. If I’m getting fucked … And nowadays, hormones have really … It feels so weird. So I was on birth control for so long, and it dulled my sex drive. And then after being sterilized, I went off. And then I became a total horn dog, more than I thought was possible.

Charlotte Sartre: But it’s weird, I can tell when I’m ovulating. The eggs aren’t going anywhere. But that’s when I feel really submissive, and I just want to get bent over in a public restroom. Yeah. And when I’m in those type of moods, I like really dark fantasies. My husband will be fucking me, and he’ll be choking me, and I’m like, “Say it, say it.” And he’s like, “Do you want to die tonight?” And I’m like [crosstalk 00:28:02].

Mistress Danielle Blunt: We’re very similar. I like to … Yeah.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I have a submissive who would say … We would have similar dirty talk. And they were like, “Whenever you wish. You tell me when that time is.”

Charlotte Sartre: I love that. That’s the ultimate … I think that’s why I really like the show Hannibal, because it’s like … I don’t know, it’s just so horny to have the fantasy of giving somebody mind, body, and soul. And by that, I mean, the ability to take it all away.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah. Even just playing with that is such a fun form of power play. Or tapping into some of those feelings of feeling that way, and sure, safe, sane, and consensual, and proper negotiation, and trusting who you [inaudible 00:29:01].

Charlotte Sartre: Oh, yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: But I don’t think anything is safe, especially intimacy. Dangerous.

Charlotte Sartre: Oh, yeah, absolutely. And in the back of our heads, my husband knows I’m not really going to cut his balls off, today at least. But I don’t know, it’s just so hot to play with the idea of grave bodily harm.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah.

Charlotte Sartre: Because it really shows that you trust somebody implicitly with your life, and your body. So much that you’ll let them do whatever their will is to it.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah, truly beautiful. My ex, we would talk at length about how he would will me his skin when I decided it was his time to die, and then I would jerk off other men in gloves I made out of his skin os I could cuckold him from the grave.

Charlotte Sartre: That’s so beautiful.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: [inaudible 00:30:00].

Charlotte Sartre: Now I’m thinking about human skin gloves.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Oh, that’s so lovely. Yeah. It’s so fun to chat with you. I feel like I’ve known you for so long, and seen so many different sides of you, and I just really love it.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah. And definitely when I first got into the business, I feel like I was in a completely different space. I think I was in more of a dark head space. And I think that’s one thing that really attracted me to hardcore submission. But now I feel like I’m a lot healthier mentally and physically. So I feel so much more comfortable taking agency of myself, but also other people.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah. I think submission can also be very powerful, which I [crosstalk 00:31:00].

Charlotte Sartre: Oh, yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I love to hear you talk about that, if at times you find power in submission.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah, there’s nothing quite … I’m not a hiker or anything. I’m sure if I hiked to the top of a mountain, I would feel really accomplished. But there’s something so rewarding about going through a really hard situation, and ending up on the other side of it okay, and the endorphins that come with that, and the catharsis.

Charlotte Sartre: I don’t know, it’s just something I haven’t quite experienced anywhere else. And some of the most hardcore shit I’ve done is stuff that was predominantly my idea that I just wanted to overcome, and face, and then get to the other side of that. And I don’t know, I just feel a lot stronger because of a lot of the submissive stuff I’ve done.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah, and I feel like having those intense experiences in a contained space is its own form of … It can be potentially healing, or it can just be really empowering, or just an incredible … You’re talking about hiking to the top of a mountian, the other thing that intense hikers or endurance runners have is that flow state that comes, and this beautiful feeling of your brain where time slows down, and all you’re thinking about is this present moment. And I always find that it has to be challenging enough to keep you stimulated, but not too hard that you’re going to necessarily fail, so you can stay in between in the zone of tolerance, and continue to push it slightly upwards.

Charlotte Sartre: Oh, yeah, and that’s why it’s so important, people say the sub is always in control of the situation. In the best case scenario, that’s true. But if I’m doing a thing where maybe sometimes my safe word isn’t heard because stuff is just really noisy, or whatever, which has happened in certain situations I’ve been in, or the dom will just forget one of my limits.

Charlotte Sartre: Or for me, I don’t like my pussy being slapped. I don’t know why. It seems hot to me, but I don’t like it. It makes me … I either start crying, or I start punching. And sometimes that’s just the go to move for a lot of dudes for some reason. So that happens, and I’m like, “Oh, I am suddenly not having a good time.”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Right.

Charlotte Sartre: Or I’ll be like, “Okay, I like electricity, but only in these places.” And then someone forgets, and then it can turn from, I don’t know, a hike where I can see the top, to suddenly [inaudible 00:34:07] is screaming from the other mountain and the snow is coming down. And now I have to turn around and walk through the mines of Moria. Sorry, I talk about Lord of the Rings a lot.

Charlotte Sartre: But I feel like Lord of the Rings can be applied to a lot of situations in life. But yeah, it’s so important for those healthy boundaries to be established and respected. I would love to cut my husband’s balls off. But if I have them in a vice, and I’m ready to go with the knife, and at the last possible moment, he’s like, “Okay, stop.” I have to respect that, or else I’m a shitty dom.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Right. Yeah. Yeah, and I think there’s something too, about … I feel like there’s … As long as someone is not intentionally crossing your boundaries, I found I’m both [inaudible 00:35:04] having the boundary being respected is a positive modeling of the way things should go. But also, people are human, and fallible, and when something goes slightly wrong, I feel like there’s an opportunity for tremendous healing, and reparative work of when there’s a rupture in a scene, if … And as I’ve been doing more work, I try and play with people who are open to using those spaces of rupture. Not that it’s ever my intention to do that.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Just that when two people are interacting together, someone is going to potentially cross someone’s boundary at some point, no matter how hard, or what preventative negotiation measures you have. Even if it’s just … Especially because I feel like people don’t always know what all of their boundaries are until it’s crossed.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah, that’s true. And that’s been the situation for me too. But yeah, I’ve had really rewarding moments with tops who are super experienced and caring, and they can, in an instant switch off scary top, and move into maybe not after care, but super caring mode, and be like, “Hey, are you good?”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Right.

Charlotte Sartre: And I’m like, “Oh, okay, I feel safe again, safe enough for you to hurt me.”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: So you don’t have to go back down all the way the mountain.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah, I’ll just have a dip. And it’s cool. I don’t know, I don’t think I have as much of a threshold for having my boundaries crossed repeatedly in a scene.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Oh, yeah.

Charlotte Sartre: But someone who’s really, really good at what they do can threaten me with the threat of having a boundary crossed. I’ll work with JP from Kink a lot. And I’m okay with electricity in certain situations. But I don’t always like cattle prods. Sometimes I’m like, “Hey, I don’t want to do the cattle prod today.” And he’ll get it really, really close to me, and turn it on, and he’s like, “Okay, what if I just shocked your pussy right now?” And I’ll start crying because I’m so scared. Even though I know never in a million years would he cross that boundary because I told him not to. But he knows he can fuck with me and make me, just for a second, think that he’s going to.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Right [crosstalk 00:37:36], and trust, and building it up in a relationship.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah. And it really works well with our dynamic, because I’ve been working with him for … Pretty much since the beginning of my career, five years, six years ish. But then when I’m fearing for … I don’t know, I have this primal fear, and I’m bawling crying, and I’m so scared, then when I finally come, it feels so much better. I just really like to be scared and horny at the same time.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: What’s better?

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Name a better duo.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: [crosstalk 00:38:20] duo. Yeah, and I think that kind of play really takes communication, and trust, and an ongoing relationship for sure. [inaudible 00:38:36] just I’ve been having these chats with people which have been really fun, and leu of being able to do things in person. And one thing that we’ve never done, we’ve never shot a scene together.

Charlotte Sartre: I know. I would really love that. Definitely next time you come to Vegas, or if I can make my way out to you, it would be awesome. It’s tough, because I feel like any time I’m traveling … I’m sure you probably relate to this too. I get overstimulated, I’m like, “Oh my God, there’s so much.” And then I want to see everybody. But you only get so much time, and then it’s … I don’t know, it’s tough, especially in … I feel like, in New York, it’s harder to get around [inaudible 00:39:25].

Mistress Danielle Blunt: [crosstalk 00:39:26] in New York.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah, it reminds me of LA a bit, because it’s like, “Oh, you live 12 miles away? I’ll see you in an hour.”

Mistress Danielle Blunt: I’ll see you never.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Definitely part of it. Yeah, I feel like co-topping would be really fun though.

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah, I have so much fun. I remember some sessions we’ve done where you were dom training me. And I was nervous to do stuff, but then you’d be like, “No.” And then you’d hit your sub, and I’m like, “Okay, I see.” And then it’s so much fun to be able to bounce energy off of another person.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Yeah. Double dom sessions are some of my favorite. You’re conspiring with a friend of how to hurt someone is such a joyful, mischievous experience.

Charlotte Sartre: I love that. And having been on the receiving end of getting the beat down from two hotties at the same time, what more could you possibly want as a sub?

Mistress Danielle Blunt: It’s spiritual.

Charlotte Sartre: It’s a spiritual experience for sure.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Truly. Well, I’m going to wrap this up, but I don’t know if there’s anything else you wanted to touch on, or talk about.

Charlotte Sartre: I don’t know, I feel like we’ve been very illuminating and inspiring.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Thank you for joining our Ted Talk on [crosstalk 00:41:00].

Charlotte Sartre: Yeah, ball busting and spirituality, and castration.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: As the peak. That’s enlightenment.

Charlotte Sartre: I agree.

Mistress Danielle Blunt: Wonderful. Well, I’m glad we can end on that note.