24/7 D/s Relationship & Findom: I Interview My Woman Finsub (Again)

A couple years ago, I had the opportunity to sit down with my woman financial submissive to chat about our relationship, findom, and total power exchange (TPE). It was a hit on social media. So much so that someone paid me to interview her again. Here’s the long-awaited part two of our interview on financial domination.

The audio version of this interview can be found here.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Three, two …

Little Bitch:
You can’t expect …

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
… one. Hello. I am here today with my submissive, my favorite little bitch, who will remain nameless throughout the episode. I am super excited to be here today talking about financial domination, 24/7 D/s and all things power exchange. My name is Danielle Blunt. I am a professional dominatrix based in New York City, and I am here today with my little bitch. Would you like to introduce yourself and not reveal any personally identifying information, little bitch?

Little Bitch:
It’s my favorite introduction. I am a little bitch/finsub in Brooklyn.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You work in tech.

Little Bitch:
Oh, yeah. I work in tech. How do I introduce myself without giving away any identifiable information?

[Laughter] 

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Okay. What you need to know about her is that she’s a little bitch. She’s a cuck, she’s into findom and she’s a woman. So we shared, I think it was around a year ago, after a year of you being in service to me, we shared a written transcript of a conversation that we had about financial domination and it got shared around a lot on sex worker, Twitter, and we were just hoping to continue the conversation. Actually, you all might find this funny. The blog post was going around Twitter in the last few days. A bunch of people were retweeting it and talking about it, and someone asked if we would have a followup conversation. I was like, “You can pay me to do that,” and so I’m currently getting paid to have this conversation with you …

Little Bitch:
[crosstalk 00:01:56].

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
… that we were already planning to have, which is like, my work ethos is to get paid double for the labor you’re already doing.

Little Bitch:
Right. Right, right.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
So I thought you might find that exciting. So I am actually in Upstate New York right now. My Christmas tree is still up, even though I’m Jewish, and I am sitting in front of my fireplace chatting with you while you’re working for me in Brooklyn. Where are you? What’s your life look like?

Little Bitch:
Sounds like the dream. I am just finishing my day job to start doing work for you, and then I will go to sleep and do it again tomorrow.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Hot.

Little Bitch:
So also living the dream.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah. I think that it’s important to have that discrepancy that our dreams might not look different, but we’re both looking, we’re both looking. They might look different, but we’re both living our dreams.

[Laughter] 

Little Bitch:
Right.

[Laughter] 

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Okay. So I am going to ask you some questions, feel free to ask me questions and we’ll just have a conversation about some of the shit that we do and get up to. So how did you first come across findom and find your way into the kink scene, and how does findom play into that?

Little Bitch:
I found out about findom through Twitter, which I think is the primary way that I started exploring most kinks because I’m a millennial, and I just started searching it on Twitter to see what came up. A lot of it, unsurprisingly, was pro-dommes, and so that was the first area that I started exploring. I didn’t see a lot, initially, that was … that felt like something I would be interested in, so I just left it alone for a while, honestly, for maybe six months to a year after discovering it as a concept. Then I started more seriously or intentionally revisiting it with you.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
And so what were you seeing, why didn’t it resonate? Did you know that you were interested in findom or were you like, “Financial domination isn’t for me, and I’m interested in X, Y and Z instead,” and how did you come back to findom, I guess, other than me telling you what to do?

Little Bitch:
My favorite way to explore BDSM.

[Laughter] 

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I have installed many kinks into you.

[Laughter] 

Little Bitch:
It’s true.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You’re just like a little receptacle for my desires.

Little Bitch:
What I was seeing originally was, I think, the three categories were rich men and sugar baby dynamics, and then also the ruin your life narrative where people were sending a lot of money and then deleting their accounts. Then the other part was the like, “You’re a loser,” like, “Fuck you, pay me,” type vibes. All of those are great and I know that people are super into them, but none of them really resonated with me. So I just left it alone for a while and knew that it existed.

I thought it was interesting, conceptually, because I think money is probably the most prominent form of power in our society for better or worse, and I think it would be cool to play with it as a medium for power exchange, but I didn’t immediately with, admittedly, very little research, see that reflected on the one channel that I was looking at. So I moved on to what else I might be interested in.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I like how you broke that down into three different types of findom with the fourth being just a manifestation of power exchange, which I totally love, and also, I agree. I’ve definitely played around with different styles of financial domination over the 12 or 14 years that I’ve been involved in the kink community, and I think there is something really interesting about all of those different dynamics and how … I think the sugar baby one that you brought up is super interesting too, of how from a more submissive posture, sex workers are able to use the power of money in a way that is still eroticized. I always think about how any fetish or activity can be wielded on either side of the D/s slash, and I know my friend, [Katie Diamond 00:06:30], who’s a bootblack, talks a lot about, when teaching bootblacking, how the bootblack can be submissive or dominant in that dynamic, depending on what style of bootblacking is happening.

I always like to think about that in regards to all different types of fetishes and activities, and watching someone hold onto that power and play with that power from a more submissive standpoint is super interesting to me. But, yeah, I don’t particularly resonate to either of those spaces, and I think the one that is … Maybe I might add on a additional category, which would be female supremacy, air quotes, and I also don’t particularly vibe with that, although I’ve tried on boots in all of these different places that we’re talking about, but you’re a woman, you’re submitting to me and I … It’s less female supremacy and more so that I’m just supreme.

Little Bitch:
This one in particular.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
What was that?

Little Bitch:
This one in particular.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because so many of my clients and submissives are queer and are not men, that that just subverted so much of what you see in traditional female supremacy type pornography. I think, for me, it’s always been super important, and I have this on some of the first copy on my website that it was never someone’s gender that attracted them to me. It was how they played with power or how they relinquished their power to me, and I think that it’s so true in this circumstance too. It’s not that I hate men and want to dominate them. It’s that I hate everyone.

It’s that I want someone to serve me, not because they see me as this glorified woman they put up on a pedestal, but because there’s something about me specifically that they want to serve, and that is the type of submission in D/s that I like to play with.

Little Bitch:
Yeah. That makes a lot of sense.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
What about for you? What’s it like being a woman submissive, a woman financial submissive, because I know, we’ve been talking about this for years, and you just really don’t see a lot of it and it has been more recently that more women and non-binary folks have been seeing me and that my clientele has expanded beyond just cismen.

Little Bitch:
Yeah. I think it would be great, obviously, to see more women and non-binary people exploring it from this side of the slash, I guess. I think, if only for the fact that if you’re experimenting with it, you likely have some sort of power or money to be experimenting with, and I’m all for that happening. Then, I also think, because it is unusual or uncommon, that it likely has signified some sort of shift in that specific demographic, being willing to ask for what they need and seek out those types of relationships in higher quantities, which I think would also be great.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah. I would love to hear about the first time you approached a sex worker or dominatrix, and if there was any … What was going through your head as you were doing it and why did you reach that out? I ask this as someone who has also hired a sex worker as a woman and it was such an empowering experience for me to ask for exactly what I needed without having to have any care for if their sexual needs were being met, and something that I could pursue outside of my personal relationships that was just contained. So, for me, it was just the boundaries around it were really amazing and what I was looking for to be able to explore something that I wouldn’t have in a personal relationship.

Little Bitch:
Yeah. It’s interesting. The first time that I did seek out any, intentionally, any sort of D/s relationship was on FetLife in a personal relationship, and I had a really difficult time taking any sort of lead and implying what I wanted. I think part of it was because I didn’t know, I was very young, but I also think another part of it was just I felt uncomfortable with asking. I know the first time I did reach out to a pro-domme, I had the exact same feelings. I was like, “Oh, this is still not the space for me to ask for what I need,” and I would say, probably, maybe months later, did I start indicating what I liked or didn’t like. I really had a hard time with it, which I think is reflective of my personality and the way I move through the world in general.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
A little less of yourself.

Little Bitch:
Right, right, but it was really hard for me, even going into it knowing that the relationship was professional and that was exactly what I was there to do, was to get my needs met, it was still very difficult for me to intentionally go in and construct.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
It’s so interesting too, because I think this is why so many dominatrix, dominatrices, get inquiries where people aren’t saying anything. When people are actually interested in just exploring power dynamics, which I think I would identify you as, as having someone who’s … There are a variety of different ways to explore what power dynamics feel like in the body, that it can be hard to articulate a specific scene, which is also how I am. It’s not a particular fetish or activity or implement that I’m interested in.

So I have a hard time giving people lists of what I’m into because I’m into psychological domination and I’m into power dynamics and I’m into heavy D/s play. Now I have the language to be able to say those things and communicate some of that and what some of those activities in there might look like, but if I was hiring a professional submissive, it would take me a while to find the specific language that would give them the information that they needed to craft a scene for me.

Little Bitch:
Yeah. I think that’s a great point. I really agree with the concept of it doesn’t really matter what I’m doing, or the activity is not super important. I don’t also identify with having a lot of fetishes, if any, maybe heels, because I grew up seeing that associated with powerful, career-driven women, and so I think maybe that one.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
This bitch loves The Devil Wears Prada.

Little Bitch:
I do, I do.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Hopefully that’s not personally identifying.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
It is strongly associated with my personal brand, I will say.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Besides, it was so funny, because you were talking about this movie with a friend, and a friend of mine was like, “Oh, that movie made me realize how much I hated capitalism,” and you were like, “This movie made me realize I wanted to be the best little worker that there ever was.”

Little Bitch:
We fought about it. It was our first fight. I was like, “No, this is a great movie. It’s aspirational,” and she was like, “No, it’s not.”

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I aspire to have a hot, abusive boss.

Little Bitch:
I sure do.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Me.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
Yes. All my dreams came true.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Me too. Manifesting your childhood dreams. Okay, so I was tweeting on Twitter telling people that I was going to have this interview, and then that person asked me to do it, and I was like, “Great, pay me,” but so people asked us a few questions. The first of which was how did you meet? I’ll let you answer this one.

Little Bitch:
I slid into your DMs with cash almost two years ago, just after the pandemic started. I became acutely aware of all of the free labor that I was consuming, and I think, like a lot of people, I’m like, “I feel bad because this doesn’t affect me super directly and what can I do that might be somewhat good?” and so I reached out to you and a few other people, like an astrologer I was following and, I think, a fitness person, a workout person, and a couple of other people. Then, if I’m correct, I think that I just … I think I had your email after that, and then I was just thinking about it and I eventually … You were advertising about coffee dates and then I think we scheduled that first [crosstalk 00:15:20].

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Oh, yeah, you booked … I was donating money to mutual aid for coffee dates and you booked one. Then I remember you were like … Also, you didn’t mention anything about financial domination or particularly about your kink interest at all on that first coffee. It was just like, very much like, “Ah, we’re in a crisis,” and just chatting, and then you followed up with me with an email that was like, “Oh, also, by the way, I’m a little bitch and I’m into findom and I want to buy you that computer from your wishlist,” and I’m like, “I like you.” I’m like, “You knew how to get my attention.”

Little Bitch:
Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
It’s not that hard, ladies and gentlemen.

Little Bitch:
Not that hard. This was the first time I made a good first impression. So I’ll hold onto that forever.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Maybe there’s a lesson to be learned here. You want to make a good first impression, buy her a computer or a house. Okay, so I guess this answers the next question, was findom brought up at the beginning or did that develop later on? Do you want to talk a little bit about the evolution of how we’ve done findom up until where we are right now?

Little Bitch:
Oh, gosh.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You can do it, little bitch.

Little Bitch:
It’s like time and memory …

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You got this.

Little Bitch:
… are weird. Well, I sent you the computer and then I think I fast followed that with a phone. Just knew [crosstalk 00:16:44].

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
It might’ve been the phone first.

Little Bitch:
Oh, really? Wow.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah, and you later told me, this gets to some of the other questions, that you dipped into other savings to get me the computer because you were like, “I was going to get it for you next month, but you asked for it sooner.”

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
I don’t remember that. That’s amazing. Look at me go.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I was anticipating your desires to get me a computer.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
Right, right. You knew it was coming.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Okay. Go, speak.

Little Bitch:
Well, and then after that, I guess … I don’t really know. The next major thing I remember was your birthday, but there’s a lot of time in between those two dates. I’m not sure what happened then. I feel like as our power dynamic changed and there was more depth there, I feel like the bounds of findom also started expanding.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
When would you say it was that you started sharing information about your personal finances and budget with me?

Little Bitch:
Maybe the first four months or so, even just vaguely of like, “This is what I need for necessities. This is what I spend on average for fun, extra stuff, and this is what I normally have left over,” and then now it’s exact numbers everywhere, but I think within four months or so, there was at least a vague …

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
At least like, “This is your money.”

Little Bitch:
… idea of my finances. Right, yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
She moves quick. She moves quick, but, I mean, when it works, it works, and, I guess, this references. So the previous blog post that we had, it made its way around Twitter, made its way around kinky parts of the internet, someone who has a blog about kink who’s maybe listening to this or reading this, posted it being like, “Oh, what a amazing example of financial domination and ongoing relationships. I only worry because she’s a young, professional woman.”

We did talk about how coming into money is something that is new to you, and this person voiced concern that maybe we were being reckless or irresponsible, which, frankly, is no one’s business, but if you could talk a little bit about that and finding sustainability in financial domination while working with a dominatrix and sharing resources and how that plays out, or if you want to address that comment to this person. How are you doing?

Little Bitch:
Like, “How are you doing, sweetie? Are you safe?” I would first like to address when you said that I move quickly, that I think the joke should really be, what does a lesbian bring to a second date? The Bank of America.

[Laughter]

I think it’s a fair concern. Maybe for us to have more so than anyone else, but I think, if anything, knowing you and being so open about my money has been beneficial for my personal finances. When I met you, I had a little bit of credit card debt, I would say, and now I have longterm … or I have savings that I can fall back on, and we just finished talking about my savings goals for the next five years and making sure that was aligned within our findom conversations.

I think in D/s, and especially in financial domination, there can sometimes be this perception that only one person is benefiting, and if that’s not true, it’s not findom or it’s not D/s, but I think our goals are very well aligned with one another. It just is what we’re both looking for, and it’s not like my goals have to be thrown out the window or I have to have no financial future for you to have one.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
It’s a hot sentence though. You have-

Little Bitch:
It’s very hot to think of about, but probably impractical on a long enough scale.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I think it’s also so important to me that women have fuck you funds and have savings to fall back on in case anything goes wrong, and when you didn’t have savings, it actually made me feel really nervous. All of my friends, I love talking to people about money, I love referring people and paying for people to go to financial coaching places. I sent you to a financial counselor. I’m helping you set up a longterm savings account. I am taking most of the money that you earn because it’s mine, but still, if anything goes wrong, I want you to feel safe and not super worried.

I’m less concerned about this with cismen, but it’s something I thought a lot about in our dynamic, and also sustainability is something that is super important to me. I think that’s why so much of the home wrecking, ruin your life … Someone going into debt for me would be really hot. I’m watching the Sopranos right now, and they have a racket where they force people to go into debt and just ruin their life and bankrupt them. I’m like, “Okay, I could get into that,” but …

Little Bitch:
[crosstalk 00:22:30].

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
… it’s not my primary interest when it comes to financial domination, I must say. Sustainability feels really good for me, and knowing that we’ll be able to continue this because the sustainability of D/s dynamics is really important to me. I think both of us aren’t super interested in that one-off, dopamine high of sending … It’s like, “That’s hot on top of our pre-established D/s relationship.”

Little Bitch:
Right, exactly. Yeah, I think I have a hard time really being into almost anything without a foundational D/s relationship, and I think my preferred way to explore findom is to think about my ambitions and my goals and then see how I can make sacrifices for you. Not give up my goals. I feel that’s the flip of it, is I still want to have my goals and see what I can sacrifice to help you towards your goals, but I don’t think that they have to be mutually exclusive.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
And I also, for me, you are my favorite asset. You are a longterm investment of mine that I am investing my time and energy in and I want to maximize your earning potential because I don’t want to work. So that also feels important to me too, is that you have everything that you need to excel in your career and make more money for me, and I think … Do you want to talk a little bit about how good you do at work?

Little Bitch:
I mean, if we have to.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Well, [crosstalk 00:24:27].

Little Bitch:
Or you want me to talk about it?

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah, I want you …

Little Bitch:
Oh.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah. This is the CNC part of the conversation …

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
I was going to say, I’ve changed my answers.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
… where I make you think about yourself.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
Yeah. I do pretty well. Like the first interview indicated, I’m fairly young and fairly far along in my career, and I think it’s growing pretty exponentially every year. I’m definitely thinking … I think that’s another consideration, is when I’m planning out my life or the next few years, I am thinking, longterm, how do I construct a plan that meets my goals and gives me the safety that I’m looking for and the success that I’m looking for, but then also how am I getting exponential growth for you as well and how can I structure my life around that, and what splits and what percentages feel good to achieve both?

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Right. Yeah, and I will say you are climbing that little bitch corporate ladder very fast. I think it was the same friend that you got into a fight with about The Devil Wears Prada, but we were talking about how … I think we were on a vacation or somewhere Upstate that you had paid for and we were watching movies and we were talking about how you would be the last … everyone would be comrade and you’d be the last, little corporate drone.

Little Bitch:
Yes. I want to live on a commune that I fund completely.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Whatever you do with [crosstalk 00:26:08].

Little Bitch:
It’s the dream.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
That’s hot.

Little Bitch:
Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
We’re very aligned. So I think people listening or reading this interview can see how aligned we are. Commune, you say cult, I say whatever.

Little Bitch:
I’ll have either. Both sound great.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Why not both?

Little Bitch:
Every commune needs a strong leader.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah. I think we got that taken care of. I need someone with good organizational skills. So you got that too. Okay, so another question that people asked was how does she make enough money to be financially dominated? I think that this is a great question because women often make much less, and I think, no offense, but part of the reason why your salary is growing so exponentially is because you were ridiculously underpaid and it’s important that you negotiate raises on a regular basis for Mistress, but I think that people also think that you need to have a shit ton of money to play with financial domination, as well as see a sex worker.

I think I just like to remind folks that it is always … Working-class folks always tip the most and are the most respectful clients that I’ve ever had, and that people saving up to see me is also a possibility. It doesn’t … it’s not … My clientele doesn’t just consist of people who drop $1,000 like it’s nothing. I was wondering, just a little bit, if you could talk about what your history with money was because I know it wasn’t always something that you had access to and you didn’t grow up with money.

Little Bitch:
Right, yeah. I grew up in … I don’t know what … I actually don’t know what class it is. I grew up with very little money and I think that’s what developed that strong association between money and power was, I was very aware that as I gained more money, I gained more power in the world and in society. I think that’s probably what prompted me to be interested in it, but, like you said, my income growth has been pretty exponential in the last few years.

So when I started thinking about findom the first time that I was creeping around on Twitter, I did not have a lot of money that I could have used or played with or experimented with, and I think that’s, at least with the smaller amounts with the people who … just the act of sending, that was validating because it was smaller amounts. I’m like, “Oh, you can do it with not a lot of money.” I didn’t quite get what was happening, but I was excited about it, but I think it’s, for me, it’s like my income has grown even as I’ve known you quite a bit and I think it’s more about the-

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Probably doubled.

Little Bitch:
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I think it’s more about the percentage …

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Right.

Little Bitch:
… that I think about and the level of whether $100 is a lot for me or $1,000 is a lot for me. For me, personally, it doesn’t really matter which it is. It’s just the act.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
[crosstalk 00:29:46].

Little Bitch:
Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah, and I feel very much the same way. Someone who I’ve been training on OnlyFans was saving up for a few weeks to send me a couple $100 Christmas present, and it’s like … I always say, it’s like, “Make a tribute that makes you feel something,” because that number is going to be different for everyone, and whether or not I have … it’s enough for my time is something that is up for me to decide, but it should be uncomfortable. I like things that are sustainable but uncomfortable and require sacrifice, is the mathematical equation that I would suggest for financial domination. Do you have anything else you wanted to add to that equation?

Little Bitch:
I don’t think so. I think a hot part of findom for me is the improvement, but I think also the consistency is also appealing to me, although, I don’t know if that’s just because it’s specific to you and I know that security is important to you, but I feel like showing up reliably also with financial support is super valuable, even if it’s not a lot. If you can just depend on that person to do the thing repeatedly seems nice to me.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Okay, so what do you find hot about financial domination?

Little Bitch:
Everything.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Well, okay, so you were talking about it, and I know you, but … So this month you’re not allowed to spend any money on yourself.

Little Bitch:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
So we’ll talk about this a little bit more about what we went through after the break. We’ll come back to you talking about how we hired a lawyer to write us a financial domination contract. I don’t know if there will be an advertisement there because I’m already getting paid to do this, but you get off on not going out to eat and staying at home doing work for me, and that is a tangible sacrifice. So we have what your bare needs are and what your disposable income is, that’s not what I’m taking from you …

Little Bitch:
Right.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
… and that’s my wiggle room.

Little Bitch:
Right.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
The rest just automatically goes to me. The rest is what we play with and I can withhold and restrict and make sure that you’re doing what I want and use it as a … Yes, you’re nodding, like whole new [inaudible 00:32:37]. Is that right?

Little Bitch:
Yes.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You’re like, “Yes, Mistress, yes.” So I want to know what about it is hot because there’s this element of sacrifice that is important to you in withholding?

Little Bitch:
Yeah. I think denial is probably a big thing for me.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I never let you cum so …

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
Well, I think we were talking about cuckolding the other day and I was trying to explore why I’m so into that, and I think I landed on it’s because of the denial part. It’s because I’m not getting to do the thing that I want to do above anything, and I think it’s very similar for money and a lot of other parts of our relationship, whether it’s screen time on my phone or wanting to do-

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I have a very sadistic screen time regimen for her because she should not be wasting time on social media when she could be making me money.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
Right. Of course.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
And you also have, what’s your new rule?

Little Bitch:
Oh, I’m not allowed to watch TV or do anything otherwise relaxing or pleasurable until my to-do list for the week is done.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Amazing. I mean, I think it’s important that you learn through every avenue possible to prioritize my pleasure above all else, and I think cuckolding falls into that and so does financial domination.

Little Bitch:
Right.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I think cuckolding is also just about always associated with humiliation, which it sounds like that’s not what the driving factor is for you and I don’t think you particularly align with like, “You’re just a little unworthy worm.” Maybe I say it, but that’s not the thing that does it to you. It’s not like I am better than you in every way. I mean, I am, but that’s not the part of it that’s getting you off. I feel like what I like about you and your submission is I very much see you as an intellectual equal, which is very fun for me to have good conversations with someone, but it’s that you then surrender that power to me, which is what I find so hot about our dynamic.

Little Bitch:
Yeah. I agree. I don’t find it humiliating. I don’t find it degrading or think I’m a loser who doesn’t deserve it. It’s hot to hear, I won’t lie to you, but it’s not …

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
It’s hot to hear. [crosstalk 00:35:28] striving for.

Little Bitch:
… what I actually think of myself or our relationship. It’s definitely the denial, and it’s nice also-

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You’re definitely more of a basic bitch than a loser anyways.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
True. I’ll own that one. Yeah.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I interrupted you. So sorry.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
I think, oh, I was just going to say that I think I also enjoy that I feel like we’re equals, in generally speaking in the world, because I think that makes the submission [intentional] for me. I also think I’ve told you a few times that I’m very uninterested in my submission and my masochism generally, and I’m very interested in your dominance and sadism. So I think I also feel similarly of it’s important to me that we are equals and that some sort of surrender is purposefully happening.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah, which works well for me because I don’t really care what you want.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
It’s great. It’s what I love about you.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Aw, baby. Okay, so someone asked what is in the purchase for mistress hall of fame? What’s the best thing you’ve ever gotten me?

Little Bitch:
I liked the knife.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah. My Christmas gift this year was good.

Little Bitch:
It was, selfishly, a favorite.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Tell me about this knife.

Little Bitch:
It’s a very nice knife. It’s a very hot knife. I forget the company that it’s from, actually.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Heart and Forge or something.

Little Bitch:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Saw it on Instagram. Everyone likes it every time they post anything, very hard to find, and I was looking for what I could get you for Christmas. They just happened to send an email and I clicked it within an hour and I scooped one up. Then an hour later they were sold out and I was so excited because I had been on the list for at least a year. So I was excited to get that.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Then when I got it, I immediately held it up to your neck and whispered in your ear, “Don’t ever fucking put this in the dishwasher. It’s a very nice knife.”

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
Yeah, and I haven’t-

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
And I didn’t get blood. It was very sharp.

Little Bitch:
I think the vacation is probably going to be a big one when …

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yes.

Little Bitch:
… you go on vacation.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Tell me about that.

Little Bitch:
You always talk about wanting to go on vacation, and so-

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I’m notoriously terrible at going on vacation.

Little Bitch:
Yes, yes.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You constantly tell me that I should embody my anti-work politic more.

Little Bitch:
Yes, and you’ve said to me in the past that it’s not just the money for the vacation, it’s also the work that you could be missing out on while you’re on vacation. So the gift was both the vacation and also roughly what you were making [crosstalk 00:38:42].

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You’re [crosstalk 00:38:42] me PTO.

Little Bitch:
Yes.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
That’s so nice. I’ve been freelancing for 14 years. It’s truly an incredible gift. Yes, I look forward to this vacation and I’ll have to find somewhere. It’s hard to do this in a pandemic, so you’ve put me in a bind, but I will do my best …

Little Bitch:
That’s true, that’s true.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
… to spend all of your money. I think those are probably up there with my favorites. You’re also just incredibly thoughtful, like your gift …

Are you going to cry?

[Laughter]

Little bitch. It’s so easy. This is also what we talk about. It’s like, “Why would I put in a ton of labor to hurt you?” You have an emotion, when I can just compliment you and then you start crying.

Little Bitch:
I don’t cry …

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You cry [crosstalk 00:39:40].

Little Bitch:
… slander. I cry at adorable animals. Who wouldn’t, among us, cry at an adorable animal?

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You don’t cry?

Little Bitch:
No, not generally. Do I? Old people too. I cry about old people. I love old people.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
It’s been known to happen. One day you’ll be old. Not right now, you’re a spring, baby chicken. Okay. How has service changed your approaches to your own finances? This is a question for both of us.

Little Bitch:
For me, it’s just maybe more aware, I guess. I, again, met you at a time where I think my income was increasing pretty quickly and still is and I didn’t really know what to do beyond like, “Don’t have debt,” and you’ve really helped me know what to do besides getting rid of debt, and been pretty proactively involved in helping me save and figure out investing and those types of things. So I think it’s been very positive just to be aware of what my options are.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I’m a very expensive financial counselor. I’ll take 80% of all of your income to tell you what to do with the rest. I think, for me, it’s made me feel more secure, which is very nice, and also my savings have also gone up exponentially. Thanks, and one day you’ll buy me a house.

Little Bitch:
One day. Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
She’s still working on that one. Always something to reach towards. I guess we talked about how do we set up boundaries to keep your submissive safe and free of debt, which is assuming that I want you to be safe and free of debt, but we’ve just discussed that, and I actually do. What are your limits and do you have spending limits?

Little Bitch:
My limits specifically related to findom or just in general?

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Give them to me, give them to the people, give what you want.

Little Bitch:
My limits are that I don’t like bugs and I have a lot of intrusive thoughts about eyes. So I also don’t like eyes and anything related to them. I also watched a lot of horror movies. So I don’t … You’re being weird with your eyes right now and I don’t appreciate it.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Edgeplay.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
I also watched a lot of scary movies when I was little, so I don’t want you to remove any of the nails on my body, and I think-

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Could I put a nail into your body?

Little Bitch:
Maybe. Just don’t remove the ones I already have.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Okay, but we can add, do an additive process.

Little Bitch:
Right, and then it can be a scene of like, “Oh, I thought you didn’t want me to remove them.”

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
So I’m just going to nail you to this board.

Little Bitch:
Yeah, and then you can’t take it out because … I’ll just have to be there forever because you can’t remove the nails. Do you get it?

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
No, but we could try.

Little Bitch:
What? Okay.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Are you going to explain the joke to me?

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
No. It was a good joke.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
It is a good joke. I was a little slow. I like it. You also want to be … I could nail you into your little cabin in the woods when you’re not working for me. You could just be face-down, ass-up working on your little work computer, nailed to the ground.

Little Bitch:
Yes, that’d be perfect. I think that my lower back would be un-thrilled, but I’m enthused, personally.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
We could put a little strap to lift up some of that weight from your booty up.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
Right.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Don’t worry. I got you.

Little Bitch:
Thank you.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I also told her that I would build her a little mid-century modern cabin for this scene because there can’t be any bugs.

Little Bitch:
It’s true. I want to be abandoned in the woods, but if a bug came near me, I would cry.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You would redout.

Little Bitch:
Mm-hmm (affirmative), and no one would be there to help me. It would be awful.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Oh, I’m getting turned on thinking … There we go, but I’ll just keep that to myself.

[Laughter]

Okay, so now for my favorite part of this conversation, I think. What was it like negotiating a findom contract, because, for me, it was incredibly fun. We hired a kink-friendly lawyer who is a friend of mine, and I had no idea that contract law is so hot. Oh, my God. I was so turned on in all of those meetings. I had to keep apologizing to my friend. We’re just flirting while the lawyer is watching us as we talk about what percentage of your income is mine, how it will go directly into my bank account. How you’ll have to beg me for an allowance. How, if you want to terminate the contract, I get to keep everything over $300, and, other than a blender, I think it was in the … A blender and video games, was it?

Little Bitch:
Yeah, but don’t forget, I could write a permission slip to be able to keep things that were over $300, which I also thought was hot. I love a permission slip.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You have to have permission slips now.

Little Bitch:
I know.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
For what?

Little Bitch:
I think for spending anything over $100 on myself.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Fantasies, permission to fantasize.

Little Bitch:
Oh yes. I also need to write a permission slip to fantasize … for what I want to fantasize about when I edge for an hour, and then if you give me permission, I have six hours to complete the task.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
I’m not going to respond until midnight. That will be fun for me. Okay, what was negotiating a findom contract like for you?

Little Bitch:
It was very hot. I think that findom is … There are so many things I love about our D/s relationship, but I think that findom is the hottest part for me and is the most closely tied to my sexuality. I feel like multiple times after the conversations with the lawyers we were flustered. We just looked at each other or like, “Are we good?” Like, “How do you feel?”

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Was that okay?

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
Yeah. Did you like that?

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Did that feel good for you?

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
It was great.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah. 10 out of 10 recommend this lawyer, but, okay, but so what was it like putting those things into writing?

Little Bitch:
It was nice to see it written out tangibly, and I think now we’re starting to talk about what it would look like if we wrote out the other parts of our relationship into a contract. It’s nice even when it’s in the notes, docs, that we have of what the rules are, and I think, with the contract, it gets more into what the commitment is and what the devotion and the power exchanges, which is-

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
The power play.

Little Bitch:
Right, which is probably the most central to how I find meaning in D/s relationship.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). I was just thinking about if you had to have permission to think about me at any time and you would get electro zapped with a little collar if you thought about me without permission.

Little Bitch:
That would be, just in general, that would be so … it’d be constant.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yeah. You’d be constantly zapped. It’s hot to me. My pussy’s wet, so get into it.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
I’m just thinking about how it would function. I feel like we are-

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You could turn it off during work hours.

Little Bitch:
Okay, perfect. That was my concern.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Only at bedtime.

Little Bitch:
How would I make money?

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Yes, one of your boundaries is I can’t do anything that would impact your ability to make money, which is also my boundary. You can’t do anything that would impact your ability to make money.

Little Bitch:
Right, I forgot that one. Yeah, I read it in a book once. There was this book that I read …

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
A little [crosstalk 00:48:30].

Little Bitch:
… a while ago about a D/s relationship, and it was the first time that I saw someone write about the type of thing that I’m interested in, in very explicit detail, and it was just …

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
What are you interested in? Explain it, show.

Little Bitch:
I guess the relationship. I didn’t have words even when I first met you to explain what I was interested in because I didn’t have fetishes that I could reference or even really specific kinks. I think, like you said, you install a lot of fetishes in me. I think that what I’m into is so wrapped up in the dominance and sadism, and then also the relationship and the power exchange that it’s difficult for me to talk about individual, specific things that I’m into, and this was the first time I saw that in a book or in written form. I wish that I had found it much earlier. One of the things that they had in their contract, that’s at the end of the book, is that he won’t do anything that would cause issues with career or close relationships, and so after that I thought to put that in as a limit.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
It’s good. I mean, people who are like, “Oh, I don’t have any limits.” It’s wild because I’m like, “I can immediately think of three things, including castration, that I want to do to you right now.” So maybe think of amending that list. I also think it’s important to note that dommes have limits too, like I am not going to bankrupt you, spoiler alert, sorry. I like to strongly believe that women should have fuck you accounts that … It doesn’t make me feel safe if you are not safe.

That doesn’t feel like a safe dynamic to me, especially because of how close we are and how involved we are in each other’s lives. That just isn’t something that would sit well with me if you were being reckless or if I was enabling you to do what I thought was reckless. Okay, so what are your findom goals and how do you plan on bettering yourself in this next year? Mine are to take more of your money and to increase the growth of my asset.

Little Bitch:
I think mine are pretty similar, but I also have anticipatory service in there. I want to get better at anticipating your wants and needs, and then just planning ahead and making the space, I guess, in my calendar. I think that I am better at it when I have the space for it, and so I’m trying to intentionally make sure that I have that time so that I’m not as reactionary.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
How so reactionary?

Little Bitch:
Well, I guess just having more attention to pay. I think that anticipatory service is paying attention to habits and routines and routine wants and needs, and then I think it’s really easy, in practicality, to get busy with life or other commitments and then not be as proactive about service and the different ways that I can be useful to you.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Hot. So maximizing your value for me by molding your brain and your earning potential.

Little Bitch:
Yeah.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Minimizing all thoughts that aren’t mistress and maximizing earning potential are my two 2022 goals with you.

Little Bitch:
Right.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Okay. Is there anything else that you want to add to this? Anything you want to address to your fans?

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
No, that’s all I’ve got.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
If you had a summary of who you are as a little bitch, what would it be?

Little Bitch:
I’m into findom and orgasm control.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You’re reading your Twitter bio.

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
And … I don’t know. I guess, I always want to be better. I think D/s gives me an area to constantly improve and benchmark and try to better myself, which I’m very into in all aspects of my life, and then I think maybe devotional would be another word I would use.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). I like that. Do you have any questions for me?

Little Bitch:
Yes.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Okay. Give me that question.

Little Bitch:
I guess I would like to know what you like about findom and then also if you found it any different, doing findom with women and non-binary people and queer people versus cishet men, or is it just like the same thing in a different context?

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Okay. I feel like I talked a little bit about what I like about findom, but I think we’re like very aligned in this, is that findom is part of a D/s relationship. And to be perfectly … I think there can, like, you get off on buying me presents and sending me money and having me control your finances. But I think even if someone’s not getting off on that, if they are involved in a D/s dynamic with me, money is part of that equation. Like, you’re my personal submissive and money is still part of that, because this is about power and in the society that we live in, if I want to play with the power that you have moving through this world, a very tangible way to do that is to take your fucking money and make it mine, and increase my power and my net worth.

So I think even in D/s dynamics where that act isn’t eroticized, it still is to some extent, because it is imbuing a layer of service and devotion and surrender in every action that you’re doing throughout the day. And that, to me ,is what is erotic, is that sacrifice and that surrendering for my pleasure. So I think there’s many ways to look at it, like how playing with money can enter into an arrangement or into a relationship. And some people who I engage in D/s relationships with, there is an erotic component to specifically money. Like, money is erotically charged. And others, it is just understood to be part of what, one of the ways that I am playing with power. If that makes sense.

And then to answer your second question, which I forgot, but if I keep talking, maybe I will remember it. How is it different playing not with straight cis men? I would say, not in findom in particular, but playing with people who aren’t cis straight men, I’ve noticed are more in touch with their emotions. Aren’t plagued with alexithymia. And … What’d you say?

Little Bitch:
It’s a great word.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
It’s such a good word. Which is like an inability to verbalize what your emotions are. And tip better. Like, those are the things that I would say that I notice. Also, I will say women are some of the most heavy masochists that I play with. Like, all of the heaviest masochists that I play with are women. Yeah. It’s just like unparalleled, in my personal experience. Not to make gross generalizations, but the women who play with me want to take a lot of pain for me, which is very nice of them. So thank you to all of you babes.

And with financial domination, I would say that you are the only person that I’ve, the only woman that I’ve explored financial domination explicitly, like, as like both a fetish and as part of the D/s dynamic. But I have had D/s relationships with women that have involved money in a sustainable, worshipful, and very romantic way. And who just love giving gifts and like sacrificing for me.

Yeah. But I’ve always just been interested in the ongoing relationship and the ongoing play with power. And I think for me, financial domination just fits really nicely into that.

Little Bitch:
That makes sense. I like the first part of what you said a lot, about, like some people eroticize it and others don’t but it’s still like an element of the relationship. Because I often think about how a lot of the things that we eroticize about our relationship, I’m like, these are just things that I do to show people I care about them. In, like, my friendships and with my family, you know what I mean? And I think it’s interesting for me personally to explore that kind of contrast, or just what’s happening for me personally with you.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You worship your friends’ feet?

[Laughter]

Little Bitch:
No, not that one in particular.

[Laughter]

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Can you-

Little Bitch:
But like, service and gift giving are like my primary love languages, just in all facets of my life. And it’s interesting to be able to explore eroticizing that. And like, if I had a lot, like if I had a huge amount of money that I could enable this great luxurious life for my partner and I, whether it was like a kinky relationship or not, I’d be like, yes. Like, let’s do this. Obviously we will do this. You know what I mean? If that was what they were interested in, not in like a misogynistic way. I’m sorry.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
No, it didn’t sound. No. It’s like-

Little Bitch:
Okay.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
It’s part of how you give love.

Little Bitch:
Right.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
How do you receive love?

Little Bitch:
Words of affirmation.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
Well, I’ll end on this note. Good job, little bitch.

Little Bitch:
Thank you. Thank you.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
You did great. Okay. So I think that that just about concludes part two of our conversation on financial domination. If you missed the first part you’re in luck, it is up on my blog at mistressblunt.com. And I have a bunch of more interviews with a bunch of sexy and kinky folks up on YouTube and also on my blog, and maybe one day a podcast. Who knows? I’ve been thinking about it. And that is that on that, on findom.

Little Bitch:
We out.

Mistress Danielle Blunt:
To quote my finsub, we out.